Marc Maron’s ‘WTF’ Wraps Up with Powerful Life Lessons from Obama: NPR

After more than 15 years and millions of listeners, Marc Maron’s bi-weekly podcast concluded with a distinguished finale.

The final episode, number 1,686 of WTF with Marc Maron, premiered on Monday, featuring former President Barack Obama as the closing guest.

At the episode’s outset, Maron shared his intention to have a conversation that not only reflected on the podcast’s journey but also offered guidance for himself and his audience on navigating today’s complex world. He sought the former president’s perspective on the evolving political landscape and how to engage with it thoughtfully.

“How do we approach this with dignity, hope, and a clear sense of purpose?” Maron asked, emphasizing the importance of maintaining respectful dialogue.

Obama’s first appearance on WTF was back in 2015, recorded in Maron’s garage. For this final conversation, Maron felt it fitting to host the show from Obama’s residence in Washington, D.C.

The hour-long discussion covered topics such as the implications of President Trump’s second term, the influence of social media on public discourse, and the essential need for kindness and respect in interactions.

Since its inception in September 2009, when podcasting was just gaining momentum, Maron and producer Brendan McDonald developed WTF into a premier platform for deep, candid interviews with actors, directors, writers, and especially comedians. Notable guests have included Robin Williams, Louis C.K., and Lorne Michaels.

Throughout its run, WTF earned numerous accolades, including the 2016 Best Comedy Podcast award from the Academy of Podcasters.

In a July interview with NPR’s Fresh Air, Maron revealed that ending the podcast was a tough choice. However, both he and McDonald felt a sense of accomplishment and recognized signs of creative fatigue.

“There’s no shame in stopping if continuing would compromise our vision or ability to deliver,” Maron explained on Fresh Air. “Our audience has stayed loyal, many of whom I consider close, and they understood the decision.”

Maron’s appeal on WTF was largely due to his openness. He candidly shared his battles with anxiety, grief, and past substance abuse. In the final episode, he confided in Obama about his readiness to step back, though he admitted feeling some apprehension about the future.

“There’s a certain fear about what comes next,” Maron said.

“I wonder how I’ll cope with loneliness, manage my mental health, and find my place in this ever-changing world,” he added.

Obama responded by reflecting on his own transition after leaving the presidency.

“Don’t rush into the next chapter,” he advised. “Pause, appreciate what you’ve accomplished, and give yourself credit.”